Tasca #4930
tancatGoogle Scholar: peticions sobre citation_author i subtítol
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La nostra amiga Darcy se n'ha enrecordat de nosaltres i ens ha tornat a escriure:
From: Darcy Dapra <darcyd@google.com>
To: Ferran Jorba <Ferran.Jorba@uab.cat>
Subject: DDD and Google Scholar
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:14:13 -0800
Hi Ferran,
I hope that you're doing well! A long time ago, we raised the following
issues, and I wanted to check in to find out if you might have had
opportunity to look into fixing them?
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(1) Real authors of publications within Invenio are unable to be split from
academic advisors/non-authors in the "citation_author" metatags that
Scholar uses for indexing & display in search results:
See for example:
https://ddd.uab.cat/record/55237
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https://ddd.uab.cat/record/55237&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNG4NZkPC8zHcFQUgLKLqdqy81fxJw>
includes:
<meta content="López López-Gay, Patricia" name="citation_author" />
<meta content="Parcerisas, Francesc" name="citation_author" />
<meta content="Murcia, Claude" name="citation_author" />
But the page, the author is - Patricia López López-Gay ; directores: Claude
Murcia, Francesc Parcerisas
https://ddd.uab.cat/record/99206
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https://ddd.uab.cat/record/99206&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNGcGiASHKmhBXzLuZw7RMi-JfT8UQ>
includes:
<meta content="Calisto, Bárbara Luísa Machado" name="citation_author" />
<meta content="Fita Rodríguez, Ignasi," name="citation_author" />
On the page, the author is - Bárbara Luísa Machado Calisto ; director:
Ignacio Fita Rodríguez
On this one, you had previously written:
"Dear Darcy,
I've taken a look at this issue, and I'm afraid that with the current
infrastructure we cannot reliably split real authors from others, like
academic advisors.
The current version of our software, Invenio, does not allow to add
conditional logic to which tags go to HTML meta tags, just a list of
Marc21 tags, maybe restricting to specific indicators. Moreover, our
current transition to RDA cataloguing rules would make the logic
specially verbose. So, there is no way to express this.
I'm sorry that currently we cannot satisfy your request.
Best regards,
Ferran"
Perhaps an update helped to change this handling?
(2) Subtitles are missing from titles included in the "citation_title"
metatag, e.g.
https://ddd.uab.cat/record/1296
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https://ddd.uab.cat/record/1296&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNFX0x2_fZEirbU94Rdfz66fdcNw2w>
includes:
<meta content="Recollint valoracions de la natura" name="citation_title" />
but the title in full is:
Recollint valoracions de la natura : perspectives ecològiques, econòmiques
i culturals
https://ddd.uab.cat/record/164891
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https://ddd.uab.cat/record/164891&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNFHuvhDaq0j162W_hqH--sLn5NXSg>
includes:
<meta content="La sociología de la política educativa :"
name="citation_title" />
But the title should be:
La sociología de la política educativa : aportaciones al estudio de los
procesos de cambio
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On the second item here, Lars at CERN sent along the following pointers
that help to add the subtitles to the "citation_title" tags:
https://github.com/inveniosoftware/invenio/issues/3826
And here's a simple patch that hopefully would be easy to apply:
https://github.com/CERNDocumentServer/invenio/commit/
d1790c9cc47e52779bce6bea1d7d1512a59a596a
Also, if you need help, Lars mentioned he'd be happy to help you.
====
In any case, if it might be possible to revisit these for a fix, that would
be great.
Thanks!
Darcy
Darcy Dapra | Product Partnerships | Google Scholar | darcyd@google.com
Tasques relacionades 3 (0 obertes — 3 tancades)
FJ Actualitzat per Ferran Jorba fa aproximadament 8 anys
De moment li he respost demanant-li temps:
From: Ferran Jorba <Ferran.Jorba@uab.cat>
To: Darcy Dapra <darcyd@google.com>
Cc: Cristina Azorin <Cristina.Azorin@uab.cat>
Subject: Re: DDD and Google Scholar
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 19:21:44 +0100
Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona
Dear Darcy,
you are absolutely right, we forgot about this issue.
We'll discuss it internally and we'll be back with some answer in the
next few days.
Best regards,
Ferran Jorba
Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona
Institutional Repostitory computer admin
Ferran.Jorba@uab.cat
CA Actualitzat per Cristina Azorin fa aproximadament 8 anys
- S'ha afegit relacionat amb Tasca #4122: Google Scholar meta tags: eliminar les paginacions no rellevants
CA Actualitzat per Cristina Azorin fa aproximadament 8 anys
- S'ha afegit relacionat amb Tasca #4030: Google Scholar meta tags: separar autors d'institucions, dates i citation_pdf_url
CA Actualitzat per Cristina Azorin fa quasi 8 anys
- Data de venciment s'ha establert a 11-06-2018
- Paraula clau s'ha establert a JR
FJ Actualitzat per Ferran Jorba fa quasi 8 anys
- Prioritat ha canviat de Alta a Urgent
La Darcy ens pressiona. Pujo la prioritat; entenc que hem de tenir cura del Big Google ;-)
From: Ferran Jorba <Ferran.Jorba@uab.cat>
To: Darcy Dapra <darcyd@google.com>
Cc: Cristina Azorín <Cristina.Azorin@uab.cat>
Subject: Re: DDD and Google Scholar
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:28:26 +0200
Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona
Dear Darcy,
Sorry again. I think that we'll have to put a higher priority to this
task; meanwhile other issues have run into the priority queue before
this one.
Do we agree, Cristina?
Best regards,
Ferran Jorba
Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona
Institutional Repostitory computer admin
Ferran.Jorba@uab.cat
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:50:00 +0000
Darcy Dapra <darcyd@google.com> wrote:
Hi Ferran,
I hope you're doing well - I wanted to touch base on the following
note; have you perhaps had opportunity to take a look?Thanks!
Darcy
Darcy Dapra | Product Partnerships | Google Scholar |
darcyd@google.com
FJ Actualitzat per Ferran Jorba fa quasi 8 anys
- Estat ha canviat de Creada a En curs
Després de barallar-m'hi molt (massa), he pogut:
- Afegir el subtítol al citation_title
- Afegir l'Orcid i l'afiliació a l'autor com a 100
- Només posar-hi les 700 que no tinguin $e o que el $e sigui 'autor.' o 'author.'
Què em queda?
- Eliminar la coma final («Piemontese, Stefano,»)
- Avisar a la Darcy
FJ Actualitzat per Ferran Jorba fa quasi 8 anys
- Estat ha canviat de En curs a Tancada
Al final ho he pogut solucionar i hi he afegit un parell d'identificadors més. Així li ho he escrit a la nostra Darcy:
From: Ferran Jorba <Ferran.Jorba@uab.cat>
To: Darcy Dapra <darcyd@google.com>
Cc: Cristina Azorín <Cristina.Azorin@uab.cat>
Subject: Re: DDD and Google Scholar
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 10:15:04 +0200
Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona
Dear Darcy,
I'm glad to confirm you that most of your requests are now online, and a couple more:
- Subtitles now appear in citation_title (ex: https://ddd.uab.cat/record/1296).
- Only main authors included in citation_author; that is, theses directors similar roles are excluded (ex: https://ddd.uab.cat/record/188408).
- Author Orcid identifiers (citation_author_orcid) and institution (citation_author_institution) are included, although only for Marc21 100 tags; I haven't been able to pair them for 700 tags, so they are not included so far (ex: https://ddd.uab.cat/record/28422).
- DOIs (citation_doi) and PubMed IDs (citation_pmid) and ISSN (citation_issn) are included (ex: https://ddd.uab.cat/record/188784)
Have a good Sant Jordi Day with many books and roses, and Free Catalan Political prisoners!
Ferran Jorba
Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona
Institutional Repostitory computer admin
Ferran.Jorba@uab.cat
FJ Actualitzat per Ferran Jorba fa quasi 8 anys
From: Darcy Dapra <darcyd@google.com>
To: Ferran Jorba <Ferran.Jorba@uab.cat>
Subject: Re: DDD and Google Scholar
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:42:34 +0000
Many thanks for your kind note and for all of your help in adding these
setups, Ferran - this is wonderful news! I'll share with the Scholar
engineers, and if they have questions or recommendations for further
adjustment, then I'll keep you posted.
Thanks again - and I hope you have a great day and enjoy the rest of your
week as well!
Darcy
Darcy Dapra | Product Partnerships | Google Scholar | darcyd@google.com
FJ Actualitzat per Ferran Jorba fa quasi 8 anys
La Cristina ha vist que també estaria bé incloure l'adreça (url) del registre en el camp citation_abstract_html_url.
FJ Actualitzat per Ferran Jorba fa quasi 8 anys
- Prioritat ha canviat de Urgent a Normal
CA Actualitzat per Cristina Azorin fa aproximadament 7 anys
- Paraula clau s'ha suprimit (
JR)
CA Actualitzat per Cristina Azorin fa quasi 6 anys
- S'ha afegit relacionat amb Tasca #5734: Arreglar i ampliar les metadades de la pàgina HTML dels registres